Hello again,think I got it.Had put in my documents.Went into and set both application folders into XP compatability,then would open from there.Closed and tried to open from programs,recieved tcd error message,wouldn`t open.Went into my documents,opened folder and put applicator on desktop and now will work fine from there.The applicator in programs is set to XP but won`t work from there.Even installed the WVS map grid as it should running from the folder in my documents.Thanks Wombat,you kept me going there even though I had tried your sugestion earlier,I just kept trying to open from programs.